>> In yes, out I have serious doubts you can just so easy. > > Tell me your bank's routing number and your account number, and we'll > see. BTW, giving them to me constitutes permission for me to > withdrawl > from them, just so you know. :) You Americans (USA-type) seem to think your rules apply to the whole world. Maybe your legislation states that supplying an account number implies permission to withdraw money (IMHO that's a stupid rule, but it's your country, your laws), but it is at the very least unclear whether that would apply when a non-USA person would give you his non-USA account number. And the rule in western europe is that the account numbers of all companies and institutions are public knowledge. It is almost mandatory to put them on your invoices. When I get a bank transfer from a public person I get his bank number, as part of the transaction information. This is the normal practice in my country, and AFAIK in most of western europe (UK might be an exception). > I can easily transfer as much money out of your > account as you like. Give it a try, let's say for E 16.84 (just a random number, no connection with any ancient but still popular chip). My account info can be found at http://www.voti.nl/e_contact.html. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist