Has anyone ever had a product done that has used ( i think) leadless chips...the lil blobs of epoxy over the part that gets mounted directly to the board.... specifically....a microchip product as in the 10F. Yes I know the SOT23 package is small but looking for large production volumes at lower costs. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist