This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DD_01C5E9F3.A2460630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by pch.mit.edu id jAFDm0q1024468 >From the database of the PIC you will find, that the input impedance of = the ADC-pin is 100 kOhms and the max input voltage is Vdd. You have to divide the Voltage of your Gel-accu in this way that in no circumstances more th= an Vdd can be present at the ADC-pin. When you load your Gel-accu the voltage can climb up to 15 V DC - so in minimum a divider 3:1 is necessary, 4:1 will bring you to the save side. = Due to the fact that there can be noise/spikes on the loading voltage for the Gel-accu a RC-Filter can be of help to reduce the influence. Solution 1: Simple divider by resistances R1 is the resistor from the accu to the ADC pin, R2 the resistor from ADC-pin to ground. Choose R1 10 kOhms, then R2 will be 3448 Ohms, a 1% 3,48 kOhm will give = you enough accuracy (max. 1.9% error). If this accuracy is not enough, you ha= ve to sort out a handfull of 3,48 kOhm resistors to find one which is nearer= to 3.448 kOhms. For the AC characteristics the network should be of low impedance at 120= Hz (if you use a 60 hertz AC) or 100 Hz, if you use a 50 Hz AC for loading t= he accu. The 3 db-point of a lowpass filter is typically f =3D 1/ 2*pi*R*C - in o= ur case R is 2.86 kOhms (the value of R1 parallel to R2 parallel to the inpu= t impedance of the ADC). f should be low against the 120 Hz/100 Hz, so we choose it with 30 Hz. I= f we bring this values into the equation the calculated C (parallel to R2) = has to be > 1.85 =B5F, choosing 2.2 =B5F. The conditions for the =B5C are fulfilled - the loading impedance for th= e ADC is low enough to have no problems with the LSB showing (stated in AN689a)= , the AC attenuation for 60 Hz is around 12 dB - and we need only 3 components. Solution 2: Divider and Voltage follower/filter The voltage follower will bring in minimum 2 advantages - transforming o= f the input impedance to nearly infinite (which means around 100 MOhms) and steeper filtering curve (which means better AC=B4/spike attenuation). The disadvantages are clear: more components, additional offset voltage error= , higher cost. The attached picture will show solution 2. Regards Enrico > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "fred jones" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:08 AM > Subject: [PIC] How to read Battery voltage with PIC > > > > > > Hi all, > > I'm sure this is an easy question for many of you so I hope I don't g= et > > flamed. I searched but can't find the answer in the archives althoug= h I'm > > sure it must be there somewhere. This is not my strong point so I thought > > I'd ask for help. > > > > I am building a device that will run off of a 12V gel cell battery. = It > will > > use a 16F877 PIC powered with a 7805 regulator. I'd like to be able = to > read > > the voltage of the gel cell and display it on the 2X16 LCD display. = I'm > > sure I can't connect the 12V batter into the A2D of the PIC but I'm n= ot > sure > > what the proper method would be. 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