> > Did you check the 12rf chips? > > No, but do they even have IDs in the first place? That's > another case of the same die too. Same die, but still a different print on the outside. IIRC the older 12C RF chips had no ID (like most 12-bits), but these 12F's (some 12F's are 14-bits) do. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist