> Hi Harold. We use about 1,000 Amperite time-delay relays a year (110Vac > 8sec > SPSP NO). IIRC we pay about $14 each for them. The timing is not very > precise on these. Our spec is 8 seconds, we test to make sure the units > are > between 3 - 15 seconds and we still get about 5% duds. I think Amperite > makes "flasher" modules too. Although we use a lot of Amperites, I am not > a > big fan of these devices - they are a necessary evil in our application. > > Maybe you could use a timing motor, cam, and switch to get the desired > timing? Or maybe somehow use a switch tied to one of the solenoids - the > solenoids wont pull-in instantaneously so maybe you could get your delay > from that. They probably take less than 0.5 sec though. In either case not > very elegant. > > Sorry, that's the best I can suggest. Maybe somebody will come up with a > clever solid state way to do this. > > -- Mark > THANKS! I used the Amperite relays 30 years ago and had no idea what the current cost was. A couple limit switches on the solenoids would be a nice simple solution, but we'd have would have almost no control over the timing. As I was writing this, I got a call from another thermal time delay manufacturer. I think they said price would be aout $7.50 in the 1k quantity range, but they cannot go below 1 second. They generally run about 8 seconds. A high voltage DC astable multivibrator is looking better! Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist