Neil Baylis wrote: > --> Fourth, after reading a good deal, it seems clear that building a > programmer, rather than buying one, is a good idea for a newbie like > me. <-- > > Well, I agree with you on this one. It's exactly what I did. Me, OTOH, I'm with Olin on this one. I kind of do this for a living (switching between mainly software and mainly firmware/hardware back and forth), I have used probably a dozen or more programmers in different environments, but I've never built one. Not a single one... As Olin said, there's more to a good programmer than I care to know about it :) I'd rather spend the time building something that does with the PIC what I want it to do, than spend the time learning the finer details of what's necessary to get it programmed. IMO this is a task more suited for the few who chose building programmers and selling them as their line of business. OTOH... it may be a satisfaction to have a set of tools all self-made. Not quite 100% possible (you probably need some sort of multimeter to start with, and few will make their screw drivers :) but still... Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist