Maris wrote (and several other people wrote other things): > > How about this: I could send you parts for TWO programmers; then you > could assemble both and send me one Come on guys, give me a break, huh? Olin's offer was a very generous offer, and I deeply appreciate it. Probably more than any of you realize, because it affirmed the view that I have of myself, which sometimes, usually while lying sleepless just before dawn, I start to doubt. But I can't take charity. Period. Not in any form, and no matter how well intentioned. It is just a part of who I am, for better or for worse. I'll get my problems solved -- it will just take a little time and patience. And if you all want to swear at me for being so stiff-necked, I cannot help that -- nothing that any of you might say could even begin to compare with the opinion that my in-laws have of me. :-) So please drop it, OK? I'll do fine. I'm young, healthy, and by the time the wee one is old enough for me to start teaching her to program, I'll have something going. I understand that some of the previous generations (from what my father-in-law tells me) generally spent 2 or 3 years wasting their time (his view) in the military, so if I have to spend a couple of years catching up on what I foolishly threw away (my education) things should still average out Bill -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist