Bill Kuncicky wrote : > Second, none of the available tutorials really seem > to be completely up-to-date. Why would this area be any different from the rest of the Internet ? Most of what you find on "the net" has long passed it's "best before date", including any PIC info out there. > I do not know much about how fast Microchip > comes out with new products, Several 10's of processorns each year :-) > Probably no way to fix that, but it sure would be nice to see > a tutorial that started out with the new stuff available. I'm sure all available tutorials did that. Once upon a time... :-) > Fourth, after reading a good deal, it seems clear that building a > programmer, rather than buying one, is a good idea for a newbie like > me. Might be. But you could at least start out with a good design. *My* first programer was a Wisp628 built from whatever I had available at the time : http://www.voti.nl/wisp628/index.html Today I resell this programmer in Sweden and have had very few problems with it. Best Regards, Jan-Erik -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist