Oops... Sorry, that was not ment to go to the piclist....

=D8yvind

On 3. nov. 2005, at 07.46, =D8yvind Tjervaag wrote:

> Hepp...
>
> Vet ikke om jeg sa dette ig=E5r, men jeg kj=F8pte likegodt tre b=F8ker =
om =20
> lakkering n=E5r jeg f=F8rst var igang. En som var litt generellt on =20
> lakkering og hvordan sette opp lakkspr=F8yte osv. En om =20
> flammelakkering (Classic ikke trueflames ;) ) og en om pinstriping. =20
> Her skal det lakkes. N=E5 trenger jeg bare litt lakk og noe =E5 lakke p=
=E5..
>
> =D8
>
> On 3. nov. 2005, at 02.51, Bill Kuncicky wrote:
>
>
>> Olin Lathrop wrote
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I sell programmers, so this may be biased.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I think that probably you are a bit biased, but not in that way.  =20
>> It did not escape my attention that your recommendation was for =20
>> Microchip's programmer.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>>>  Designing and implementing a
>>>>
>>>>
>>> good programmer is not an appropriate newbie project.  There's a =20
>>> lot more to
>>> it (if you want to do it right at least) than might be apparent =20
>>> at first.
>>> And what are you supposed to use to program PICs while developing =20
>>> your own
>>> programmer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> No, I agree.  I could not design a programmer.   If someone came =20
>> to me and pointed a gun at my head, and said: "design a =20
>> programmer, or die like the dog that you are," then I would just =20
>> have to humbly ask  them to aim straight.  No, I could not design =20
>> a programmer.  But I think that I can a build a programmer that =20
>> someone else has designed.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I recommend getting a ICD2.  This can be used as both a =20
>>>> programmer and
>>>>
>>>>
>>> debugger.  You don't want to be worrying about your tools when =20
>>> everything
>>> else is suspect too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I said a while back that I thought perhaps you were a bit biased.  =20
>> I did not say this lightly -- I have read a lot of the archives, =20
>> and I know that you are one of  the guru people on piclist.  =20
>> Nevetheless, for me, trying to build something like the programmer =20
>> set out at WinPicProg is probably better. I think that your bias =20
>> is toward assuming that we are capable of things that we are not =20
>> capable of.   For one thing, as ashamed as I am to have to admit =20
>> it, spending $17 for a copy of the Student Manual for the Art of =20
>> Electronics called for a major sit-down discussion with my wife, =20
>> and whether the medicine for the eye drops for the baby could be =20
>> stretched out for a few days by perhaps giving her half a drop =20
>> rather  than a whole drop.  :-)   (That is kind of an hurting =20
>> smiley-face, but that is the way life is).  So (and I am not =20
>> asking for sympathy, merely stating how the world is operating =20
>> these days -- I got myself into this situation, and will get =20
>> myself out) a major expenditure for a programmer would take a =20
>> major decision for us both.  I would much rather not have to do that.
>>
>> So I think that I will try and build a programmer, following =20
>> someone else's proven design.  And I may very well rue the day, =20
>> too.  :-)  But I just have to follow my instincts (although God =20
>> knows they have not served me well in the past).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bill
>>
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