Hepp... Vet ikke om jeg sa dette ig=E5r, men jeg kj=F8pte likegodt tre b=F8ker om= =20 lakkering n=E5r jeg f=F8rst var igang. En som var litt generellt on =20 lakkering og hvordan sette opp lakkspr=F8yte osv. En om flammelakkering =20 (Classic ikke trueflames ;) ) og en om pinstriping. Her skal det =20 lakkes. N=E5 trenger jeg bare litt lakk og noe =E5 lakke p=E5.. =D8 On 3. nov. 2005, at 02.51, Bill Kuncicky wrote: > Olin Lathrop wrote > > >> >> >>> I sell programmers, so this may be biased. >>> >> >> > I think that probably you are a bit biased, but not in that way. =20 > It did not escape my attention that your recommendation was for =20 > Microchip's programmer. :-) > > >>> Designing and implementing a >>> >> good programmer is not an appropriate newbie project. There's a =20 >> lot more to >> it (if you want to do it right at least) than might be apparent at =20 >> first. >> And what are you supposed to use to program PICs while developing =20 >> your own >> programmer? >> >> > No, I agree. I could not design a programmer. If someone came to =20 > me and pointed a gun at my head, and said: "design a programmer, or =20 > die like the dog that you are," then I would just have to humbly =20 > ask them to aim straight. No, I could not design a programmer. =20 > But I think that I can a build a programmer that someone else has =20 > designed. > > >>> I recommend getting a ICD2. This can be used as both a =20 >>> programmer and >>> >> debugger. You don't want to be worrying about your tools when =20 >> everything >> else is suspect too. >> >> > I said a while back that I thought perhaps you were a bit biased. =20 > I did not say this lightly -- I have read a lot of the archives, =20 > and I know that you are one of the guru people on piclist. =20 > Nevetheless, for me, trying to build something like the programmer =20 > set out at WinPicProg is probably better. I think that your bias is =20 > toward assuming that we are capable of things that we are not =20 > capable of. For one thing, as ashamed as I am to have to admit =20 > it, spending $17 for a copy of the Student Manual for the Art of =20 > Electronics called for a major sit-down discussion with my wife, =20 > and whether the medicine for the eye drops for the baby could be =20 > stretched out for a few days by perhaps giving her half a drop =20 > rather than a whole drop. :-) (That is kind of an hurting =20 > smiley-face, but that is the way life is). So (and I am not asking =20 > for sympathy, merely stating how the world is operating these days =20 > -- I got myself into this situation, and will get myself out) a =20 > major expenditure for a programmer would take a major decision for =20 > us both. I would much rather not have to do that. > > So I think that I will try and build a programmer, following =20 > someone else's proven design. And I may very well rue the day, =20 > too. :-) But I just have to follow my instincts (although God =20 > knows they have not served me well in the past). > > Best regards, > Bill > > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist