On Oct 31, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Nelson Johnsrud wrote: > However, I got to the point with my initial reading that I simply had > to get SOMETHING in hand in order to progress. I bought one of the > less expensive programmers (PG4) and a breadboard so that as I read > some of the tutorials, I can stop reading once in a while and say > "let's try that." Note that with the state of free simulation tools, you don't really need real hardware to try something out. Although I'll admit that getting something running under the usual simulator lacks some of the satisfaction of real hardware... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist