There was an article using electrostatic charge to sense attitude several years agi in Flying Models magazine. As I remember it used radioactive sources from smoke detectors and analog electronics to do the job. Team 190 of First Robotics used a Piezo Gyro and a 3 axis acelerometer to do full inertial navigation of the robot during autonomous mode and to add features like heading hold when controlled remotely. Larry Nelson Sr. > > From: James Humes > Date: 2005/10/31 Mon PM 02:32:43 EST > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Subject: Re: [EE] Xtal Gyroscopes - ideas? > > It was listed in [EE], so call "regular" circuits fair game:) I'd put a PIC > in the mix given by Peter. I've heard of using resistive photocells for > horizon detectors before, which would keep the pitch stable and then use a > tilt sensor of some kind on the roll axis... all read in by the PIC which > can make its decisions and output servo signals. > James > > On 10/31/05, Debbie wrote: > > > > > > --- Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > Futaba, Tokin and Murata all make piezo gyros of the kind you have in > > > mind. A simple autopilot can be built without using a computer, by just > > > using the gyro signal to change the duty cycle of a PWM signal which > > > directly drives a usual model servo. But since the gyro output is rate > > > proportional a proper heading or attitude hold cannot be maintained. > > > Iow, look for an electrolytic level sensor, a hall compass, and a > > > barometric sensor as a better starting point for an autopilot. > > > > > > Peter > > > -- > > > > Hey Peter, but surely you're not suggesting ... a project > > //without// a > > PIC?? :)) > > Actually, thankz for the tips, guys. Hmmm. The gizmos @ www.sparkfun.comlook > > //very// interesting. > > Debbie > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Listen to over 20 online radio stations and watch the latest music videos > > on Yahoo! Music. > > http://au.launch.yahoo.com > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist