> > There are only three professors that I can think of (all three from > > unrelated disciplines) that both knew the material, and > were good at > > teaching. > > Yes, I had a few also. Most failed to make tenure and eventually left > the university for which I was working. At the university I attended there happened to be a few professors left from the early days of computing. I recall 4 of them, all with at least some (national, maybe even some international) reputation, and all IMHO very good instructors. vdPoel constructed one of the first computers in my country, Hertzberg was know for the computer break-ins he let his students perform for getting a grade, had been involved in PDP-11 development, and Meertens was one of the developers of ABC, which eventually evolved into Python. But there were also large numbers of pure nitwits who could only recite the course material. But shit happens, everywhere. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist