> I say "trying" to teach because my opinion of the matter is that if you > can't get a fully-auditory learning person through a standard college > level algebra class (just an example of a "simple" math class) with a > good grade, you might be good at math, but you're not yet a good > *teacher* of math. Professional teachers know about learning styles and This may sound old-fashioned of me, but I think that students are in college, to learn, not to be taught. This means that knowledge is not spoon-fed to you like it was in elementary school, but rather presented for you to take or not as you choose. In college you need to not only read *all* the material and do the problems, but you need to research on your own. If you're not doing that, you're wasting everybody's time. If you don't come to college to learn (and I am talking both of students *and* professors) you shouldn't be there. IMNSHO, of course. It's a harsh statement, but I think that the good teachers need to be in the K-12 environment. After that schooling is optional and if the student doesn't want to learn, why should the "system" help them? > Unfortunately today in the U.S., many math departments also have a large > percentage of people from non-English speaking countries who are working > their way through academic research here in the U.S. who have heavy > accents, and the accent and the inability to clearly articulate their > knowledge is a huge detriment for an auditory learner in an already Yes. I still remember a course in mathematical mechanics where it took me several days to realize what "angle arfa in the plan of the blackboard" meant. I got the source material because I actually read the books and did the homework assignments. I just couldn't understand what the teacher (a full professor BTW) was saying. -- D. Jay Newman ! Politicians and civilizations come and jay@sprucegrove.com ! go but the engineers and machinists http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! make progress -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist