I would normally agree with this reasoning and I highly value my time -- never enough of it and I'd rather use it for paying work or leisure, but... To swap motherboards usually means an OS re-install (at least if you want reliable operation). While an OS re-install is generally easy and not too time consuming, most of my systems take at least 2-3 DAYS to re-install all of the applications. I haven't done an OS re-install on any of my systems in a couple years. It simply takes too much time. I'm always amazed at how many people do an OS re-install at the first glitch in their system. They must not have any significant applications that need to be re-installed. On the other hand, I can swap all the caps on a motherboard in about an hour, including removing the motherboard and re-installing it. I do have a Hakko vacuum desoldering tool which makes short work of removing the bad caps and that does make a big difference. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:14:04 -0400, M. Adam Davis wrote: > On 10/26/05, Mike Hord wrote: > > > Interesting. How do you decide which cap needs replacing? Or do > > you simply replace all the caps around the sockets in question? > > > When the board is so bad that it no longer boots, usually every > largish capacitor around the CPU is either bulging or leaking. I > replace all of the (usually) three values of capacitors, because it's > just a short matter of time before the others go even if they look > nice now. Sometimes I've removed "nice" looking ones and found they > were visibly damaged on the bottom where I couldn't check. > > It's not really worth the trouble, though. The caps are cheap, but > so are new motherboards and time is not necessarily free. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist