On Oct 25, 2005, at 3:28 PM, John Nall wrote: > No. Germany? Of course not. > Japan? No, they got carried away during WW II. Sheesh. How long does a country have to behave themselves before they're a candidate for "moral guide"? And if it's that long, how come the US isn't in trouble for assorted nastiness well before WW2? How about Australia or New Zealand? Norway, Finland, or the Netherlands? Or does it have to be a superpower? (Not with your iceland recommendation, I guess, although perhaps that's the problem.) Who qualifies as a superpower these days, anyway? What sort of moral shape is India in? BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist