Right, always visit the assembly house so you can understand their proces= s. The automated placement of SMD components is a ONE-SIDE process for most=20 assemblers. THis is because the stencil process is a one-side process,=20 using gravity to keep the devices in place. People who have components on both sides have the second side assembled=20 by hand. Few shops can reliably mount SMD components automatically on=20 both sides, and ever fewer are located inside the USA. I always mount SMD on top side, then install bottom SMD manually,=20 finally top or bottom sided thru-connectors manually, I have almost NO=20 confidence in SMD conectors. --Bob Roland wrote: >Well, I visited an assembly house on friday for my first auto place job,= and was told, if possible, to keep all componenets on one side only. I h= ave a mix of smd on top and bottom, and leaded on top, like I see on many= boards.=20 > >But, if you keep all smd on one side, then they only need to stencil the= solder paste once, and possibly also reduce the stencil cost. Also, if y= ou keep all smd on the top, then there's no need for the glue on the unde= rneath to stop components falling off during the reflow. > >It's best to visit the guys first before you lay the board, to see what = equipment they have, and their recommendations. No need to fight with the= m afterwards. Also check what size pads they require for various packages. > >regards >Roland > > > > >At 06:32 PM 15/10/2005 +0200, you wrote: > =20 > >>> What is the normal procedure for assembling boards? Do you guy just >>>put the components where you need them or you try to think how to simp= lify >>>assembly to lower the costs? (the components where you need them, but = off >>>course always with no constraint violations). >>> >>> Well... That's about it. Any comments?=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>Hi, >> >>Yes, I always try to put SMD components on the bottom side and through = hole=20 >>components on the top side. If I have to put a component, like a LED fo= r=20 >>example, on the top side I choose a trough hole instead of SMD to keep = assembly=20 >>cost down - SMD on one side only. >> >>Regards / Ruben >> >> >> >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>Ruben J=F6nsson >>AB Liros Electronic >>Box 9124, 200 39 Malm=F6, Sweden >>TEL INT +46 40142078 >>FAX INT +46 40947388 >>ruben@pp.sbbs.se >>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >>--=20 >>http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >>View/change your membership options at >>http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> >> =20 >> >Regards >Roland Jollivet > > > =20 > --=20 Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to attach@engineer.cotse.net . 1-866-263-5745 USA/Canada http://beam.to/azengineer --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist