>I will very probably buy one of those since I have a wood stove and=20 >it is > nice to use some sort of fan to circulate the air when it is really=20 > cold and > the fire is stoked up first thing in the AM. > > And I will most likely try running it on solar power outside during=20 > the > summer and may see if I can couple a little DC motor to it and light=20 > an LED. I uggested some improvements to them :-) The cold side doesn't seem to make good use of the fan draft from what=20 I could see. Hot/cold diffferential is a significant factor in power=20 output and efficiency. It's very likely that the cold side gets quite=20 hot with use. The other aspect is harder to play with. It appears, and I may be=20 wrong, that it has no formal regenerator. If not then it's efficiency=20 will be much affected. (The regenerator is effectively a low pneumatic=20 resistance thermaal sink that traps heat/coolth as gas passes to and=20 fro to it. In an ideal case hot gas enetering comes out cold and cold=20 gas entering comes out hot with the energy to do this stored in the=20 regenerator matrix. Designing good ones is one of the major challenges=20 of a Strilin engine). Many simple designs have informal regenerators formed by the sides of=20 the passageway from hot to cold. In this case they may use flow=20 directly up the sides of the diaplacer and in such cases the displacer=20 sides and the cylinder sides will act as a regenerator as best they=20 can. > However, I don't believe it is producing anywhere near enough power=20 > to be > useful as a generator. It needs 350=B0F to turn over and circulates=20 > 200-300 > cfm of air when operating. The unit is 13 inches tall and 10 inches=20 > wide. > The fan has 5-blades, and is 10 inches in diameter. A unit warmed up=20 > on a > 400=B0 surface will turn approximately 400 RPM. Someone could easily enough work out the power from that information.=20 I'm not going to try as I know where my morning will go if I start=20 :-). Or an engineer could rig an electric motor with an equivalent fan=20 and simulate it :-). I'd guess at least a few watts, so a Luxeon LED=20 could probebly be driven. Assuming the fan is efficient for the speed it runs at, a different=20 fan with similar air handling capacity should have roughly similar=20 power rating. > Perhaps an array of them? Or a properly designed Striling engine? :-) Tens of watts should be easy enough in this application. RM __________________________________ Aaagh Fan Power Fun. He makes some assumptions but the simplistic f=3Dma approach seems=20 good enough for rough results http://beale.best.vwh.net/measure/fan/fanspeed.html Superb Nepal light from fires project. Gas mantle from stove / thermoeletric / ... No Stirling but excellent http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ewb/Docs/Modialogo%20Project.doc High volume low speed "effciient modern fans" http://www.macro-air.com/principle/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist