Microchip has their ICD2 for about $160. I have found some lower cost alternatives on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ICD2-Programmer-Microchip-PIC-dsPIC-Programming-Module_W0QQitemZ7550283131QQcategoryZ50915QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ICD2-ICD-2-debugger-programmer-Microchip-PIC-MCU_W0QQitemZ7552687730QQcategoryZ50915QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Can any of you recommend any of the lower cost ICDs out there? Thanks --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist