I'm thinking that some of the problems I'm having with my PIC starting up are due to this bootloader. =20 What bootloader do people seem to like most? =20 I've tried two: * Screamer - seemed to work well until it just stopped working on my laptop... No idea why. Suddenly always stopped at "got data frame" and never actually uploaded anything to the bootloader. * Tinybloader - Works somewhat okay, though it has a crappy IDE and a short timeout, and seems to be flaky. =20 -David -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist