I do not know about T7S series but T7N is similar. As long as the creepage distance and clearance fulfill the standards, it is okay to be used. In T7N's case, the common contact pin is put between the coil pins. This is quite unusual but it is still okay (6mm from the center hole of the common pin to the coil pins, normally 5.5mm is required for double insulation and 3mm for basic insulation). It is also okay to be used for UL since it is recognized by UL. It can not be used in Protection Class II equipment though. I am now using Schrack PE014 relay for Protection Class II. It is one of the smallest which fulfill Protection Class II (Overvoltage category III and reinforced insulation, voltage rating 250V according to IEC60664). The isolation voltage between relay coils and contacts need to be greater than 3750V RMS in order to be used in Protection Class II. Maybe one big customer of T7N/T7S series requires Tyco/Scrack to do this. EN50178 and UL508/UL840 are good to read in terms of isolation requirement. It is not so fun to read though. Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: laura capaldi Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:28 AM To: piclist@mit.edu Subject: [EE] Pinning in newer relays I was looking at some of the new Tyco/Schrack relays, the T7S series. Anyone know why they've moved one of the N/O pins up to in-between the coil pins. Won't this be dangerous if using mains currents between the N/O pins? Why change it from the original coil pins on one side and N/O pins on the other? Laura -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist