>> and because of the "revolution" many our >> friends were experimenting with different arrangements. The social and religious "values" that surround sex date to periods in history when it was normal to get married (or the equivalent) shortly after puberty, give birth to half a dozen children, and die by about the time the youngest had their first child. It's not at all surprising that those mores don't seem to fit well in a modern society where people of both sexes delay families till after they have established careers (~30) and live for 50 years after that. So societies going through assorted mutations trying to find a more viable form, and the unsuccessful mutations are dying off. Fortunately (?) societies seem to evolve much faster than organisms. Maybe we'll find something that works better Real Soon Now... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist