Because they want you to buy a new camera. My theory is still over competition in the consumer electronics sector. It makes no more economic sense for the consumer electronics vendors to provide support after the product is EOL. And for consumer electronics product, often EOL means 1 or 2 years or even less. And it really takes a PhD to fully utilize the features of a new digicam. The industrial design aspect of digital cameras have been focused on the sleekness, not the usability side (human engineering side). As for the firmware update, it is also a support nightmare. The firmwares we are talking about here in digicams or new phones are not the PIC16Fs (<=8k word). They are up to 10s of Mega Bytes. That is why the Sony Ericson T610 would often hang when it was first released. I'd better stick with my old Nokia 8250. The human engineering of the small keypad is also a nightmare to use for SMS. I just do not understand why the people here in ASIA can type the messages so fast using the small numerical keypad. It also promotes bad English. The only reason is that it is quite cheap here to use SMS (US$0.03 per message and often the subscribers got free 100 or more free SMS). Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: Robert Rolf Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:30 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] Industrial design of electronics product ... There are many features that I like in the newer digital cameras, but I can't seem to find them all in ONE camera, in spite of months of looking. Camera makers COULD update their older cameras with features found in their later models (record mode histograms, fine focus zoom box, etc.) but they don't. An update only seems to fix stuff that is badly WRONG but never adds a useful new feature even though it's only needs firmware. Why is that? Robert -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist