David Van Horn wrote: >>I think that is one reason why wife swapping happens. >> Well, I did not intend to get involved in all this, although I think it does no harm to discuss such issues. (I am now beginning to see what buttons one can push with James in order to have a free slate. :-) That said, however, let me add my two cents. I was a graduate student in the mid-sixties, and my wife was an undergraduate. So of course we were both involved in what was later termed the "sexual revolution." I was older, having done seven years in the army, and we had both had been married before. As with perhaps all graduate students, I had a full social calendar, and my wife shared in that. We had many friends, and because of the "revolution" many our friends were experimenting with different arrangements. So let an old guy just give his thoughts on this. :-) My wife and I were talking about those days just the other day (although it was just though sheer coincidence -- we celebrated our 38th aniversary -- and so so were talking about all the different couples we had known). Not one -- not even one -- of the couples that we had known who opted for open marriage arrangements had a succesful marriage! My major was mathematics, and so I do not presume to try and issue any sort of grandiose sociological statement from that. But there is the data, for what it is worth. In every case an essential bond was destroyed, IMHO. John -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist