Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > but it will need a lot of work.... (indeed you say it is a start) like > how do you measure (does it include program startup?), description of > the PC used, serial connection used, number of verify passes (0,l,2), > etc. Yes, all those things. I want this to be a fair comparison for a variety of programmers and not just an Embed thing. I'm hoping to get data from you on the Wisp628 when I make the HEX files available. Hopefully that will happen this afternoon. It looks like I'll have some time to fill in a lot of the details tomorrow. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist