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Chen Xiao Fan wrote:
> Promate 3 is pretty fast but it costs US$895 so Olin's
> ProProg (US$295) may be a better deal as long as your chip
> is supported (I think most 18Fs/dsPICs are supported by
> ProProg).

All the 30Fs are, and most of the mainstream 18F and 16F, but there are
still some missing.  I've attached my list of what is not yet supported.

> I have only used PM3 with some 16F chips
> so I am not so sure whether PM3 is much faster than PS+.
> I think Olin should have data for ProProg.

I've usually tried to pay attention to performance within reason.  Some
things I thought were just too much trouble for the limited return, like
multiple simultaneous panel writes on a 18F252.  Still, I think you'll find
my programmers are a good chunk faster than a Picstart+.  I think my
grandmother would be faster toggling in the bits by hand.  For example I
remember that I can program a full 16F88 in about 14 seconds, which is twice
as fast as a Picstart+ if I understood Jinx correctly.

When I get back to my real office this afternoon I'll try to run some tests
and publish the results.  Actually it would be nice to compare various
programmers.  I'll make the HEX files I use available so that we can have a
good apples to apples comparison.

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Flash PICs not supported by the ProProg
---------------------------------------

12F508    DS41227D
   509

16F54     DS41207C

16F57     DS41208B
   59     DS41243A

16F72     DS39588A

16F73     DS30324B
   74
   76
   77

16F83*    DS30262E
16F84*
16F84A

16F505    DS41226E

16F737    DS30492B
   747
   767
   777

16F785    DS41237A

16F818    DS39603C
   819

16F913    DS41244B
   914
   916
   917

18F2331   DS30500A
   2431
   4331
   4431

18F6310   DS39624B
   6390
   6410
   6490
   8310
   8390
   8410
   8490


18F6525   DS30499B
   6621
   8525
   8621

18F6527   DS39643B
   6622
   6627
   6722
   8527
   8622
   8627
   8722

18F6585   DS39606C
   6680
   8585
   8680

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