> I thought MPLAB can set the programming range automatically Might be wrong but I don't believe it can, not with the PS+ AFAIK > A full 16F88 takes less than 15 seconds to program with two > verify passes > there is no reason the programmer can't automatically skip words > set to the erased value. Any memory address limit would therefore > only apply to the single verify pass, which can't save much. > Or the Picstart+/MPLAB combination is very poorly implemented The PS+ is a very old design and slow as a wet week, although I'd have though the introduction of the PUM would have improved performance. Normally I get by, but a current job with an F452 is frustrating at times. It takes 90 seconds to program 0 -> 401F. It also takes the fun out of coding If anyone knows that the PS+ can go faster, I'd like hear from them. It could be simply that I've not read all the documentation A second programmer is definitely on the shopping list (apart from anything else, I have projects using mixed micros and even with ICSP there's still too much cable swapping) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist