(I know this is a waste of time and energy, but I feel like venting just a wee bit! :-) It seems to me, as a not-so-impartial observer, that if Linux is ever going to really compete against Windows, that the present state of differences between different versions of Linux is A Very Bad Thing! I have just spent all day trying different versions of Linux to see which would run on my surplus laptop. I finally got one to run after trying several different distros, which is neither here nor there, but surely no one goes around trying to find different versions of Windows?? I have all the praise in the world for the different folks trying different strokes, but if we cannot have one version of Linux that is The Standard, then we are never going to convince the masses to convert. (Which they should). And yes, to answer your question, I feel better now. John -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist