> I'd like to spend as little money as possible, but it seems > this olimex serial ICSP programmer isn't cutting it. For whatever > reason, it seems > COMPLETELY unable to burn this new batch of 25 PIC16F88s. Everyone's > answer to that problem was "your programmer sucks," so I'm > looking for a new programmer. Program 1 16F628(A) and build yourself a Wisp628. Or an EasyProg. If you realy want to spend 'as little money as possible' you probably won't buy a kit, but otherwise that (kit) would be the advice. Forget all non-intelligent programmers. For an intelligent programmer the success with and usb-serial converter seems to depend more on the combination pc/os/hardware/driver than on the specific programmer/pc software. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist