www.barebonespcb.com is good for this kind of thing too. Only trouble is they electroless tin plate and don't reflow so shelf life isn't great but this shouldn't be a problem for you since you're likely to stuff right away. To minimize your cost, panelize a couple of your designs together so you can knock out a 'proto' PCB run for all that you're currently working on at once. Sometimes the price break in 'sq in' is such that you can incorporate another board on the panel for essentially free (with PCBexpress anyways) Dave > If you are ultimately going to make "a large quantity" of these boards > then you're almost foolish not to have a small handful of *real* > prototype boards made from a real PCB vendor -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist