Olin Lathrop wrote : > HOWEVER, the target circuit must usually be off when > programming with the EasyProg since it assumes it > is controlling the target Vdd. I just checked, > and the two particular PICs you mentioned use the Vdd before > Vpp sequence. > This means you might get away with leaving the target powered during > programming, but I haven't tried this and it's out of spec as > far as I'm concerned. Hm, the Vdd line on the RJ12 socket on the Q-P is connected the the main 5V rail on the board, right ? So when E-P "manage" the Vdd line (through the "VDD18" rail), it is powering the whole Q-P on and off, not ? What if I just don't connect the Vdd line in the cable between the two RJ12-sockets ? Just leaving GND/PGD/PGC/Vpp ? Or, given the current setup (one E-P and one Q-P-01) what would be your recomendation regarding powering of the the boards and the re-programing of the chip in the 28-pin socket ? Maybe I'd try to dig up a power suppy that matches the power spec of the Q-P, I think I have a 15V supply around (old laptop PSU). Would that make things easier/safer ? I understand the problem with the diod bridges and the ground line, thanks for pointing that out. So, if running them on the same supply, connect ground *after* the bridges, and the positive supply the regular way. Regards, and thanks for the support ! Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist