I lived in Southern California during 2002 to 2003 and I saw some small EVs insider University of California Irvine and some outside GM' Torrence Advanced Research Center. I had been to the two Fry's near to Irvine but I did not remember there was a charging station. I did hear that Southern Califronia Edison had a plan to set up charging station along the Pacific Coast Highway or some other places but I think the plan was scarpped. I think now the direction is more on the hybrid type. The battery powered EV is not so easy now. The only remote chance is that the oil price continue to rise (at least US$120 per barrel) and then maybe this type of EV got a chance. Fuel Cell may come to rescue of battery powered EVs but I think it is still far away from commercially viable. Regards, Xiaofan On 10/1/05, Howard Winter wrote: > I saw some in Southern California about two years ago, being demonstrated in the carpark of Fry's in Fountain > Valley. They must have sold some, because they installed charging points there, that owners can use free. I > believe they're still there. > > Perhaps James could check out his local Fry's next time he's there - see if they have the charging points. > > Cheers, > > > Howard Winter > St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist