> Wouter's countrymen seem to be doing pretty well - I'm According to others maybe, we ourselves aren't so sure. Right now we are debating about whether child care (in the after-school hours) is a good thing (the right and left wing parties think so) or a bad thing (the mighty middle party - in my country that's the katholic/protestant party - thinks so: it could stimulate mothers to take a job!). AFAIK this discussion has been closed long ago in all other EC countries, but of course we take our own course. > surprised we haven't heard of them doing consulting > work (at least) on the sea defences around New Orleans. AFAIK there are some Dutch consultants over there, but no one can save things when the budget is unsufficient and/or the burocracy is too heavy ... Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist