At 01:25 PM 9/29/2005 -0700, you wrote: >Course his problem could have been a cold solder as well..... Or a short, or a line not tied to the right level. There are 100 pins on that chip, lots of opportunity for that sort of thing. I'd start by checking every one of them off on the schematic or netlist one by one. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com ->> Inexpensive test equipment & parts http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist