That is the problem with USB -->lots of the driver is not properly written. I believe Microchip's USB drivers are also not very well written. I switch to serial connection for the Promate III. ICD2 seems to work fine with USB but people have met problems as well. PICkit 1/2 are working fine since they are HID devices and use the default Windows HID class drivers. Anyway drivers are generally difficult to deal with on any OSes, including Windows and Linux. They are also one of the major culprits why systems become unstable. Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: olin_piclist@embedinc.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:04 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: [EE] USB to serial converter I just installed the new driver from the Prolific web site on my Windows XP Home system and that works properly now too. I can talk to an EasyProg directly using the USB to serial converter. So this proves (as most of us thought anyway) that RTS/CTS handshaking is not required by the hardware nor a bug in Hyperterm, just a badly written and very badly tested driver. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist