It is not that "USB sucks". It is "the driver sucks". Lot of the people have to use USB dongle to work with serial based Wisp628A and EasyProg. So I think it is good to build the USB dongle insider Wisp648A and EasyPorgUSB (?). Let's wait and see if Wisp648A will be serial based or USB based. Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: John Nall [mailto:jwnall@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:47 AM >> Anyway I hope Wisp648 will be USB based and will have the >control over Vdd-traget. ;-) > > I hope just the opposite. I have had nothing but trouble with using the ICD2 in the USB mode, and finally gave up in disgust. Let me put it very plainly -- USB sucks. So please keep the Wispxxx serial-port based. Perhaps one of these days USB will be straightened out, but in the meantime I prefer stuff that works consistently, rather than according to the phase of the moon. John -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist