This is interesting - we have the same software (HyperTerminal) = exhibiting two=20 mutually exclusive behaviors. Certainly not the first time something = like this has=20 been observed in the WWW (Wonderful World of Windows). But, of course, it is NOT the same. We likely have different releases of = the software=20 running on many different versions of the OS, which is in turn running = on different=20 hardware. If one wanted to document the behavior of different release = versions of=20 the program, with different PC hardware and different versions of = Windows, a pattern=20 would probably emerge. This, while interesting, is probably not worth = the trouble,=20 since the hardware loopback jumpers, when needed, are the universal = "fix". This type of inconsistent behavior is one of the (supposed) reasons for = changing=20 over to USB and killing RS232. As those who have tried to implement USB = in a=20 device can tell you, it is not the answer either.=20 RJG ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Olin Lathrop=20 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [EE] USB to RS232 converter Alan B. Pearce wrote: > It does not send a character on the TX line, but it does play with = the > DTR/DSR lines to detect if there is a device it can talk to. But most of my devices have nothing connected to those lines and = HyperTerm still talks to them fine. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist