> ... Anyway it would cost less than half to build, compared to what a > 500 Watt Stirling costs (5000 EUR). Why? People seem to want to dismiss Stirling engines for all sorts of reasons but most seem to be based on false impressions or uncertain assumptions. What it costs to BUILD a 500 watt Stirling engine is quite different from what it presently costs to buy one. The difference between cost and selling prices includes such factors as marketing, suitability for niche markets which will tolerate higher profit margins and the consequent "what the market will bear" costings. If you are making say 10% profit then if you double the selling price you can afford to sell somewhere around only 10% as much before you lose money. Fixed costs, volume sensitive costs, size of plant and many other factors apply but as a general rule, for a niche market product the true cost of production is quite different from the selling cost. It's only when you get a highly competitive commodity market that the two approach each other closely. (The invisible hand at work :-) ). So: The same would apply to any other engine you built. The Whispergen may be the basis for that statement about cost. I greatly doubt that it *costs* E5000 to build a Whispergen. There is nothing overly magic about Stirlings or arcane in their engineering, as long as you don't want high volumetric power density. In the applications being discussed here that's not a requirement. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist