>From my friend Ken offlist: Note that an effect similar to that achieved with the floating system that I mentioned could be obtained by having a frame that tilted on x and y axes with expanding bags outside the receiver area that were heated by off centre radiation. If a phase change was acheived the travel and force available could be substantial, but even with just heating air an adequate system could probably be achieved. RM _________________________________________ From: "Ken Mardle" Russell, Passive solar trackers using an aluminium frame filled with a volatile fluid have been commonplace for years. I forget the details of how they work but I have some promotional info at home somewhere. You may also recall some work I did some years back on solar tracking using a dumb constant-motion yaw-drive combined with couple of manual adjustments through the year for azimuth. This strongly suggested that such a system would provide a total energy output which was within a few percent of active trackers. If you took into account the much higher energy demands of an active solar tracker it would very likely be well ahead (and it's a lot cheaper). This assumes a flat panel collector - you do need something better for a focussed collector. Regards, Ken Mardle Applied Digital Research Ltd. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist