**** A very useful rule of thumb is that a well designed and built air based Stirling engine using typical burner temperatures can deliver around 0.5 watt/ atmosphere/cc. ie a 1 litre engine running at 10 atmospheres could be expected to produce 0.5 x 1000 x 10 = 5 kW. 5 kW/litre is "modest" by most IC engine standards but the 1 litre cylinder is far less challenging than a 1 litre IC engine. **** > Apropos Stirling (small), how about this set up in the focal point > of a solar collector ? : > > http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~khirata/gallery/special1.gif > > from: > > http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~khirata/english/gallery.htm > > If it's not obvious, it is a one-cylinder displacer-less Stirling > (or Newcomen) engine. The 'displacer' is the shutter that can shield > the burner flame from the hot part. All such designs are fun but of very low specific power output and low efficiency. To get good efficiency and power from a Stirling engine you have to work hard and smart. For high Carnot efficiency you need high temperature. For high delivered % of Carnot efficiency but not necessarily high power density attention to all aspects of the regenerator and all the other obvious things is required. For power density you need suitable gas (essentially Hydrogen or Helium) and high pressures. Air Stirling at modest pressures is entirely doable BUT the engine will be very low lowered for its size compared to typical internal combustion engines. > Then there are NASA closed oscillating Stirlings (I think that one > could try to build a low tech version using pistons and cylinders > from a car engine): > > http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/tmsb/stirling.html More http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/tmsb/stirling/doc/lrgfp.html 12.5 kW. Helium. 1050K hot. 15 MPa operating (about 2000 psi). Non contact seals (important). 20% overall efficiency. (Carnot efficiency is 50% so tghis is 40% of Carnot which is good). 10 watt radioisotope powered Stirling with 14,000 hours running time. James would be right at home with this one :-) http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/tmsb/stirling/doc/smlrsg.html Some of this material may be a little dated ;-) http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/tmsb/stirling/doc/codes.html HFAST is written in Microsoft FORTRAN. For engine performance calculations it requires several seconds on an IBM 286 type desk-top computer that has 1 MB of RAM. For engine design optimization, which could require several hundred performance calculations, a 386 or 486 type desk top computer would be more convenient. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist