Apropos Stirling (small), how about this set up in the focal point of a solar collector ? : http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~khirata/gallery/special1.gif from: http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~khirata/english/gallery.htm If it's not obvious, it is a one-cylinder displacer-less Stirling (or Newcomen) engine. The 'displacer' is the shutter that can shield the burner flame from the hot part. Then there are NASA closed oscillating Stirlings (I think that one could try to build a low tech version using pistons and cylinders from a car engine): http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/tmsb/stirling.html (click on the drawing to see the animation) (off topic: now, who was hating the grassmowing chore ? ;-) http://www.evatech.net/ Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist