re: moving mirrors All high efficiency/high temperature systems move the mirrors. If you want to be cheap you can use 'trough' mirrors (fixed) for preheating and a single parabolic mirror for the final fun. Although the major power input is needed at the parabolic mirror. If you would just switch to another working fluid (other than water), like propane (at low temp.), nitrogen, CO2 or whatever, it would be much easier imho. Even welding gas (Ar+He) is interesting. If you go for efficiency you will have to go for high temperature. There is no choice imho. Just pick the highest temperature materials you dare to use and try for it. Either that or use a solar-chemical processes (like ZnO->Zn + 1/2O @2300K ... Zn(s)+H2O(steam)->ZnO+H2, repeat (add water vapor, extract hydrogen + oxygen). Obtaining 2300K is going to be interesting. Small crucibles sold for casting can take almost as much. Imho, if you boil water, you lose. It's ok to use water, as a gas (steam). This can be achieved, f.ex., by using a vacuum in the system on the cold side. Power plants use this. How hard would it be to make a closed circuit system in which liquid water is not allowed to circulate (condensate sump at bottom) and a Rankine cycle is used, with a pump or roots blower recirculating cold gas (steam) to the heater (hot steam). Water is great for low temperature systems (up to about 200 deg. C). After that it becomes impossibly hard to prevent it from destroying the installation. Power plants have entire divisions concerned with feed water treatment and hundreds of treatises were written on the theme. Keeping feed water clean in a small system is a sisyphic enterprise imho. And even so, who is going to work in the garage with 210at steam at 350 deg. C ?! Just to drive a point home: http://www.gcsescience.com/r3.htm Pick 2nd or 4th from top depending on what your engine is made of. All I can say is, I hope that the water injection scheme works out. Against all the numbers. It has happened before. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist