At 01:43 PM 9/23/2005 -0700, you wrote: >Dr Richard Feynman (known not-exactly-accurately as "the guy who >discovered the O-ring problem") wrote his own addition to the official >report on the Challenger accident. In it he warns that judging safety in >terms of "Well it's worked so far" doesn't prove what it seems to. A >google on "feynman report challenger" turned up the report on the first >hit. The first two paragraphs follow: > > * * * > >It appears that there are enormous differences of opinion as to the >probability of a failure with loss of vehicle and of human life. The >estimates range from roughly 1 in 100 to 1 in 100,000. The higher figures >come from the working engineers, and the very low figures from management. >What are the causes and consequences of this lack of agreement? Since 1 >part in 100,000 would imply that one could put a Shuttle up each day for >300 years expecting to lose only one, we could properly ask "What is the >cause of management's fantastic faith in the machinery?" > >We have also found that certification criteria used in Flight Readiness >Reviews often develop a gradually decreasing strictness. The argument that >the same risk was flown before without failure is often accepted as an >argument for the safety of accepting it again. Because of this, obvious >weaknesses are accepted again and again, sometimes without a sufficiently >serious attempt to remedy them, or to delay a flight because of their >continued presence. I particularly liked the burning of an o-ring seal 1/3 of the way through (for basically unknown reasons) described as a 3:1 safety factor. That's the sort of garbage you'd expect from marketdroids, not rocket scientists. >Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com ->> Inexpensive test equipment & parts http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist