Experiments (mind or hands-on) in this area should be preceded by at least a working knowledge of the thermodynamics involved. Here's an interesting and possibly even useful presentation of Carnot's original work. Fascinating as a historical glimpse even if one isn't intending to attempt to break the laws of physics :-) http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/carnot/1943/ RM Ref from Ken Mardle. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist