Most of laptops nowadays do have USB ports. ;-) Probably USB based programmer is the way to go. Wisp628 is great. A USB based Wisp628 (Wisp2550?) and EasyProg (EasyProg Pro?) will be even greater! GTP-USB/WinPIC800 is one such programmer (freeware but closed source). It supports lot of PICs and dsPICs. http://perso.wanadoo.es/siscobf/winpic800.htm (Spanish) http://forum.microchip.com/tm.asp?m=108574 (uChip Forum post) PICkit 2 (US$35) is another promising USB based programmer. The following is from the post to pickit-devel by Dan Butler "the keeper of the PICkit" from Microchip. It is good to know that PICkit 2 will support more 16F parts and 18F parts within this year and even dsPIC support is on the pipeline. It is also great that he is very supportive of a Linux version of the PICkit 2 host application. Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: Dan.Butler@Microchip.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:39 AM To: pickit-devel@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Firmware upgrading (was Re: Suitable name for the PICkit project) ... * PIC16F627A/628A/648A support - It works now and will be included in the next release. No firmware changes required. * Currently working on supporting PIC18F's and additional PIC16F's for release around the end of the year. * dsPIC is slated for the following release. ... * Cooperation - I personally want to see a Linux version and my boss is supportive too. I'll help anyway I can - share how things work and where we're going and provide sample parts to participating members (just ask!). See a need for a specific command? lets talk. For example, we had a discussion of Row Erase - I didn't see the need for it, but if you want it, we can add it. ... Best Regards, Dan Butler -----Original Message----- From: Wouter van Ooijen Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:07 PM > Couldn't this be solved by using a MAX232 or similar, looping > the signal through itself for a voltage boost? > Power would be taken from USB or PS/2 connectors (but then > you could as well use a Wisp628 anyway). You would loose the no-external-power appeal of the seial-port-powered programmers. If you have power available you might (as you say) as 2well use a propper programmer :) Wouter van Ooijen -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist