> No real disagreement there. But the programmer issue is > always something > that I see as a "chicken and egg" type problem. To get a > "proper" programmer > you need a programmer, though it may be a temporary one. For an intelligent programmer one will have to buy a PIC. If he buys it from me he might as well pay the extra to have it programmed. > So that's why I'm working on my Trivial Serial BootStrap > Programmer. The > preliminary design page is here: > http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/tbs555 SBP OK, but not so T! Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist