> Couldn't this be solved by using a MAX232 or similar, looping > the signal > through itself for a voltage boost? > Power would be taken from USB or PS/2 connectors (but then > you could as > well use a Wisp628 anyway). You would loose the no-external-power appeal of the seial-port-powered programmers. If you have power available you might (as you say) as 2well use a propper programmer :) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist