I liked the philosophy of the plane that won the X-prize. I'm not clear if it made it far enough up to get OUT into space, but I think it proved the concept. Why not get into space with a smaller vessel that is less expensiv= e to launch and then fly over to a space dock to pick up your space-only plane. Then you could maybe dock the earth-space vessel to your space-only craft and carry it with you as you go to where ever you're going. You'd use the earth-space vessel as a shuttle craft to the planets we visit (after, o= f course, having Mr. Data launch unmanned probes to the planet to let us know what kind of atmosphere we're dealing with and what kind of fuel we'll need to get home). Just a thought... James -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist