>Claim to have the world's brightest >LED's currently available: > > http://www.laminaceramics.com/products/ My local "LED Expert" colleague says that the lamina 5W units are available from Farnell here in the UK. However because they are an array of chips on a substrate trying to do any sort of optics for a torch for example, gets a bit frustrating. He finds it easier to use single chip devices like the Lumileds ones. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist