My former employer, LinuxCertified, sells laptops, and almost all of them have proper serial ports built in. They do your choice of linux (from a list of a handful distributions) and optionally dual-boot at cost of windows. http://linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html - Marcel "John J. McDonough" wrote: > I recently got a new T43. My T21 was getting a little long in the tooth, > and I was needing to buy a rather expensive program pretty soon, so that > pushed my new laptop schedule up a bit since I didn't want to invest $1100 > on the old laptop. (Well, my original schedule was to retire the T21 over a > year ago, but with a new disk it was still doing the job, even if I did get > razzed about the old clunker on some consulting assignments.) > > Anyway, like practically all the laptops out there, the T43 has no serial > port, so I was resigned to doing my PIC-EL work on the desktop. Not the end > of the world, but inconvenient. > > Since my accountant is on me to spend money, I went the long dollar for the > fancy dock (Dock III) as well. The dock is bigger than it should be, but it > does have a serial port. I sort of suspected, however, that is was simply a > USB derived serial port that wouldn't work with my PIC-EL (which is > basically a SERPIC clone). > > Well, I *finally* got all the software moved over from the old laptop and > today I took a shot at programming a PIC through the serial port ... and the > damned thing worked. I am one happy camper. I do have an ICD-2 and a NoPPP > so it's not like the PIC-EL is my only PIC programmer, but I want to do the > Elmer experiments exactly as my students do, so it's really good news that > the T43's serial port is a real one. > > Before you go running out to get a T43 be warned that this is the high > priced spread. I insisted on the little eraser thing (I'm annoyed that I > still get a touch pad but at least I can turn the thing off), and I really > like the keyboard light. Both of those seem to be IBM-only features. IBM > does have cheaper/faster laptops that I think work with the Dock III, but > they are big and heavy which is not something I wanted since I lug the thing > around a lot. > > But if you want a laptop to work with your serial programmer, there are > still alternatives. > > --McD -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist